hayst4ck 8 hours ago

The ultimatum hurts America even more when many well studied professionals are almost certainly starting to look internationally as a contingency plan for what is currently happening.

The potential for literally the same people who built the American systems to build the European ones is growing as this governments fist is tightening it's grip on power.

codingdave 9 hours ago

In pretty much all aspects of life, you gotta be careful presenting ultimatums. People might not respond with the answer you hoped.

  • beloch 8 hours ago

    It's a false choice fortunately. The EU doesn't have to choose between a totalitarian state and a crumbling democracy that is currently threatening to invade and seize the territory of a EU member nation. They can, and should, choose their own products or those of other reliable and friendly trading partners around the globe.

  • phillipseamore 9 hours ago

    Also strange to propose that there are only two options when Europe already has it's own up and running GEO and LEO satellite systems. It's not choosing US or China, it's chosen to expand their own systems.

    (I wouldn't be surprised that Brendan Carr simply doesn't know what European options are available)

    • rsynnott 20 minutes ago

      Also, like, satellite simply isn’t _that_ important comms-wise. And European companies are huge in terrestrial and especially cellular. This is actually an area of vulnerability for the US; unless it adds yet another tariff carve out or scraps the tariffs, it’s likely to have cellular infra issues.

    • tough 8 hours ago

      What's even funnier is that the actual upsell is of Musk's Starlink, lmao

nofalsescotsman 9 hours ago

Europe would be wise to start investing heavily in its own communications tech.

  • rsynnott 25 minutes ago

    European companies (basically just Nokia and Ericsson) account for about a third of the global telecoms equipment market, or almost half if you exclude China Telecom (which is a captive market for Huawei). The only US company in the top 10 or so is Cisco.

    This is one area where Europe is pretty much fine, and one where the US seems rather vulnerable; unless the tarrifs are short lived or there’s yet another carve out, US infra will suffer, especially as 6G rolls out.

lawn 4 hours ago

And the self-harm continues.

How long will it take for the US to recover from this madness, if ever?