Besides the intrinsically fun story, I really enjoyed the small-town news vibe of the whole article – the local guy who discovers the sunken taxi while fishing, takes a photo of its hubcap, samples some of the whisky, and takes a selfie showing his wincing reaction to the "rough" second bottle. In ye olden days, local newspapers would be full of charmingly mundane stories like these alongside town council minutes, the results of the 5K fun run, and lots of classifieds.
CBC gets hate perhaps because it's intellectual. Growing up in a house with no TV it was on all the time. The best news, comedy, and music, and programs like Ideas to make you think. The US has PBS, but it has never felt quite like peak CBC to me. Of course this was 40+ years ago, YRMV now.
CBC is far from intellectual. There’s far more politically neutral programming about current events out there including Steve Paiken on TVO. CBC News editors seem to be very selective about chosen stories and which seem to align with the narrative of the current political party. There’s little room for playing devils advocate. While they have a mission for diversity, it’s clearly not a diversity in thought they strive to represent.
The CBC gets hate for being politically biased and involved, while being publicly funded. Many if not most of the people calling for defunding the cbc still believe it often produces high quality content.
I'm curious if there were any way to bring up the whiskey bottles without losing the contents when they pop? Something like an underwater bag that they can place the whiskey into, then pump out any air, and pour the popped whiskey from the bag into the bottle when they're on the surface.
I think if they are popping from coming up, that means the pressure forced lake water into the bottle around the cork, and so the contents are corrupt anyway.
Still safe to drink, just not a preseved example of whatever it was originally.
Destroying 3 out of 6 of something is a terrible custodial record. Especially the other 2 after they already had the 1st explode.
It gives all non-professionals a bad name and gives elitist professionals ammo against anyone but themselves daring to dig or explore or even be interested in anything without a license.
>that means the pressure forced lake water into the bottle around the cork
no, it doesn't. perhaps the cork seal was tight enough to not let water pass, but helium could get through. The lake water pressure and very trace amounts of helium in the water would slowly increase the pressure in the bottle due to helium infiltration.
of course other "air" molecules might make it in, H2 or N2 (i'm not an expert on the size of N2)
Forget the booze. Too bad they couldn't recover the car. The 1929 REO Flying Cloud was a cool car.[1]
(Although the guy who fully restored one couldn't get more than US$22K for it.)
Until the 1980s, most cars came with a mandatory oil leak. Look at pictures of 1970s freeways, with a dark band down the center of each lane. It wasn't until the 1980s, when Japanese cars got good, that it became abnormal for automobiles to leak their working fluids.
Restoring really old, rare cars means paying for custom part manufacturing. Or having your own machine shop. There are still parts for 1957 Chevys, but a 1929 REO, no.
The pressure under significant amounts of water is _way_ higher than in air, raises with depth. The small amount of air in the bottles must have started close to 1 atmosphere of pressure (approx normal for just out in the air), but over time it equalized to at least some extent with its surroundings (either some water/gas infiltrated, or just the cork moved in a bit, or some other effect, nature dislikes imbalances).
Then when the bottles were rapidly taken back to 1 atm of pressure, the pressure inside pushed out the corks (it had less to push against than its old equalibrium). Going more slowly almost certainly would have helped (allowed it to equalize slowly, potentially without failing), but I'm not sure if that would have meant hours or months. I'm also not sure how well the contents will have survived regardless.
Generally Sudbury is considered the dividing line between Northern and Southern Ontario. Keep in mind that the far north of Ontario is almost uninhabited save for a few small reserves:
If you think of where the centre of mass of the population of Ontario is, it is insanely far north. But yeah in its official definition Northern Ontario is more of a political designation than a geographical one.
Besides the intrinsically fun story, I really enjoyed the small-town news vibe of the whole article – the local guy who discovers the sunken taxi while fishing, takes a photo of its hubcap, samples some of the whisky, and takes a selfie showing his wincing reaction to the "rough" second bottle. In ye olden days, local newspapers would be full of charmingly mundane stories like these alongside town council minutes, the results of the 5K fun run, and lots of classifieds.
For all the hate that the CBC gets, I actually do think they do a pretty good job most of the time.
CBC gets hate perhaps because it's intellectual. Growing up in a house with no TV it was on all the time. The best news, comedy, and music, and programs like Ideas to make you think. The US has PBS, but it has never felt quite like peak CBC to me. Of course this was 40+ years ago, YRMV now.
CBC is far from intellectual. There’s far more politically neutral programming about current events out there including Steve Paiken on TVO. CBC News editors seem to be very selective about chosen stories and which seem to align with the narrative of the current political party. There’s little room for playing devils advocate. While they have a mission for diversity, it’s clearly not a diversity in thought they strive to represent.
The CBC gets hate for being politically biased and involved, while being publicly funded. Many if not most of the people calling for defunding the cbc still believe it often produces high quality content.
“I was excited. I almost gave up fishing for the day.”
I love how he almost gave up fishing.
Possibly the most Canadian thing I've ever read
I'm curious if there were any way to bring up the whiskey bottles without losing the contents when they pop? Something like an underwater bag that they can place the whiskey into, then pump out any air, and pour the popped whiskey from the bag into the bottle when they're on the surface.
I think if they are popping from coming up, that means the pressure forced lake water into the bottle around the cork, and so the contents are corrupt anyway.
Still safe to drink, just not a preseved example of whatever it was originally.
Destroying 3 out of 6 of something is a terrible custodial record. Especially the other 2 after they already had the 1st explode.
It gives all non-professionals a bad name and gives elitist professionals ammo against anyone but themselves daring to dig or explore or even be interested in anything without a license.
It's not like he was opening king tuts tomb.
I don't think it it was a custodial relationship- it was basically trash
> it was basically trash
Exactly. Just like Al Capones vaults. They just needed to wait a few several hundred more years. Then they could do the custodial thing.
Maybe if they start a foundation now they can make sure nobody forgets about it until they can make bank with the historicity.
>that means the pressure forced lake water into the bottle around the cork
no, it doesn't. perhaps the cork seal was tight enough to not let water pass, but helium could get through. The lake water pressure and very trace amounts of helium in the water would slowly increase the pressure in the bottle due to helium infiltration.
of course other "air" molecules might make it in, H2 or N2 (i'm not an expert on the size of N2)
Something like a decompression chamber.
Needle through the cork.
Forget the booze. Too bad they couldn't recover the car. The 1929 REO Flying Cloud was a cool car.[1] (Although the guy who fully restored one couldn't get more than US$22K for it.)
[1] https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1929-reo-flying-cloud-mode...
Losing a quart of oil every 150 miles seems bad? For the environment more so than the price of the car?
Until the 1980s, most cars came with a mandatory oil leak. Look at pictures of 1970s freeways, with a dark band down the center of each lane. It wasn't until the 1980s, when Japanese cars got good, that it became abnormal for automobiles to leak their working fluids.
Restoring really old, rare cars means paying for custom part manufacturing. Or having your own machine shop. There are still parts for 1957 Chevys, but a 1929 REO, no.
When you drive to 'certain' parts of towns there is always an uptick in stained parking spots from oil leaks.
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On the plus side, if the reserve was not met, at least he still has the car :)
He says the car is "too fragile to remove," so it will stay at the bottom of Larder Lake for other divers to enjoy.
I'm sure that would give a few YouTubers some ideas. "Submerged for almost 90 years, will it run?"
This is what an intact one looks like: https://www.flickr.com/photos/carphotosbyrichard/51802374832
Did not expect to see my home pop up on the front page of HN — I live in Northern Ontario, and only a ten hour drive from where this article is set!
More seriously, I did actually live just an hour south of there briefly. Northern Ontario is a big place.
Being from Belgium a 10 hour drive makes me go from Belgium -> Netherlands -> Germany -> Austria.
Now that I live in the USA it's... weird. I moved from 1 city to the next city. 7 hours away.
At what point does it become legally fair game to remove the car and/or its contents?
Can someone explain why the corks popped on the surface but not in the water? What is the pressure at the bottom of lake keeping the corks in?
Pressure at the surface is 1 bar, and fresh water pressure increases at 1 bar per 10 metres. 15 metres = 2.5 bar
The pressure under significant amounts of water is _way_ higher than in air, raises with depth. The small amount of air in the bottles must have started close to 1 atmosphere of pressure (approx normal for just out in the air), but over time it equalized to at least some extent with its surroundings (either some water/gas infiltrated, or just the cork moved in a bit, or some other effect, nature dislikes imbalances).
Then when the bottles were rapidly taken back to 1 atm of pressure, the pressure inside pushed out the corks (it had less to push against than its old equalibrium). Going more slowly almost certainly would have helped (allowed it to equalize slowly, potentially without failing), but I'm not sure if that would have meant hours or months. I'm also not sure how well the contents will have survived regardless.
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Looking at a map, I'm surprised that's considered Northern Ontario
Generally Sudbury is considered the dividing line between Northern and Southern Ontario. Keep in mind that the far north of Ontario is almost uninhabited save for a few small reserves:
(map) https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Ontario
If you think of where the centre of mass of the population of Ontario is, it is insanely far north. But yeah in its official definition Northern Ontario is more of a political designation than a geographical one.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/rw4jd...
> Looking at a map, I'm surprised that's considered Northern Ontario
Check out a map of California.
Latitude of San Diego ("Southern California"): 32.7°
Latitude of San Jose ("Northern California"): 37.3°
Latitude of Crescent City ("doesn't count"): 41.8°
"Northern California" is pretty close to being dead in the center of the state, as far as north-south goes.
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> There was no gold, but they did spot six bottles in the back of what they now know is a 1929 REO Flying Cloud.
I would also pay a publicist to create this historical record
Aaaand Far Cry 5 just became even more Canadian.